Helen Joyce, journalist and author of TRANS: When Ideology Meets Reality, appeared on Richard Dawkins podcast, The Poetry of Reality.

They discuss gender and science, with Helen’s background in mathematics and campaigning at Sex Matters, and Richard’s in evolutionary biology.

Over the fifty minutes, they address Helen’s book TRANS, the importance of single-sex categories and spaces, and ideology, among other things.

The full episode can be watched here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu72Lu5FqE4&list=PL9OrX134ZznUQTCECULCAnydEhhY_fBrn